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This whole thing is all rather fustrating

 

Well I've finally decided to post. I'm slightly curious to see any responses that this receives, because I don't even know which direction it will head.

Frankly after reading every possible article that can be read about this whole situation, after seeing every possible post from the most extreme point of views, as well as the most tamed, I've begun to be grow increasingly annoyed with the whole situation. Call me obssessive compulsive disorder, but once I get something in my brain I research the cuss of out it. New movie I like... research... movie star....research....It never ends. You can't even being to imagine the insanity this whole thing has brought on me.

One thing that is made me the most annoyed is the completely back handed comments that people are making to eachother. I've begun reading fan posts on top of the regular posts and while the idiosy of some of the Canadians shines through and gives innocents in this situation, like myself, a really bad name. The we have people from arizona who, once again, give innocents, like the main posters.. a bad name. Luckily I understand that there are only a few cuss holes in this world that I will stoop down to their level, all of them being people I see on a regular basis.

I would like to state a few things both about myself, and about the city I live in.

I'm a 22 year old female in the most (progressive) mennonite area of the city. I understand mennonites inthe states are very different from mennonites in the states, so if you don't understand what I mean by that, please just keep your mouth shut, ignorant comments just make you look more dumb. Anyways. I started playing hockey in grade 5 and played for 5 years and finished on a high note when we won the city finals. I miss hockey with every fiber of my being, and play it whenever it is humanly possible.  My dad often tells me that Bobby Orr was my first word...do I believe him? Not so sure...But that's my family for you... that's how we were brought up. I don't drink unless it's special occasion, and if I do drink it's deffinitely not beer.. so please don't stereo type me. I am not fat....I'm not tiny, but i'm deffinitely not fat.. so please don't stereo type me.

Now about my city. I love my city. It may be freaking freezing during the winter, but that just means that the out door rinks are good and ready for my chance to play. I plan on living on this city for my entire life. Although I want to see the world and travel. This will be my home.. where I want to raise kids... this city is not a cuss hole, as so many of you wonderful people said on another outrageous fanpost.

This post has gone the complete opposite way from which I was hoping.

Basically what I wanted to say was, I never blamed the coyotes for the jets leaving. I would be pumped if we got that chance to cheer for a nhl team.. ( i haven't been to an nhl team since I was 4 years old) I don't think the coyotes  are a failed "desert experience". And most people from Winnipeg are the same as me. We just love hockey. I'm perfectly content cheering for any team we have. Heck, I love going the the local rink and watching minor hockey. It's the sport I love. Will I be pumped on a team back here in Winnipeg? Absolutely.. Will I cry in my soup if we don't get one? Absolutely not. I will still cheer. I will still watch, and I will still love hockey..

Can't we all agree on atleast that?

In the end. I hope this ends too. I'd like a little bit of my sanity back, I want to get back to what I normally do.. chasing men, working out and enjoying life...



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Lauren

Please understand that we are sick of this whole situation as well. And I think that you will find that most of the people who post here on FFH are not the types to lower themselves to the level of the trolls. But you also have to understand, Canadians who make comments based on ignorance; they don’t understand the situation, they don’t know the city, they don’t get the sports dynamic here, are going to annoy us. Greatly! I am as guilty as most in succumbing and ‘barking back" with some stupid comment about Winnepeg simply becuase I am frustraited. And I don’t understand why anyone would come on a PHOENIX COYOTES board/site and rag on the city or the fans. That’s just stupid, and is asking for a response. And lastly this whole, “hockey only belongs in Canada”, is quite possibly the most ignorant idea since new Coke. That tiks me off the most.

I really used to like Canada, have traveled there extensively, have good friends there. But I have to tell you this whole thing has really turned me against your whole country. The hackles rise even if I hear “Oh Canada”. In the end, that really is the biggest shame.

by Rob1966 on Mar 24, 2011 10:59 AM MST reply actions  

Lauren

First of all thank you for posting this – Lost in this who back and forth bullshit is the most important thing, the one thing that unites the lowest winnipeg troll with the rest of us – WE LOVE HOCKEY, All of us. There wouldn’t be the venom if it wasn’t.

I think a lot of us do WANT to see a team back in Winnipeg – we just don’t want that at our expense. Imagine if the peg gets a team and your Western Conference Finals were Winnipeg vs Phoenix. That would be awesome.

Unfortunatly for the hockey fans of winnipeg, no matter WHAT happens with this ownershit situation, I don’t think the NHL will move a team there. There is too much to lose and not enough to gain. Winnipeg is a saturated hockey market already. The other Canadian owners don’t want it (its another peice of their pie). And I think the rest of the NHL owners don’t want it either.

I love the coyotes, I love HOCKEY. And we’ve been dealing with this shit now for 2 years. We’re sick of it. We’re burned out. And so someone comes on our site (not you) and starts saying we don’t deserve hockey, that its canada’s game. We’re going to hit back. We’re gonna be angry. You keep prodding a dog, your gonna get biten.

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by TimmyHate on Mar 24, 2011 12:22 PM MST reply actions  

Lauren,

Thanks for posting and explaining your feelings. I know that the regular readers here will never equate you with some of the numerous banned posters that have polluted our site. Your postings are always thoughtful, respectful and well-intentioned and I appreciate that.

I also appreciate your deep love of hockey and understand that it is something that many Canadians feel strongly about. Personally, I grew up on Long Island and my father raised me as a New York Rangers fan despite our closer proximity to Nassau Colisseum and the deluge of Islanders fans that I went to school with – all of whom were more than happy to remind me that the Rangers hadn’t won anything since 1940. Thus, 1994 was a pretty special year, even if I had never gotten to go see a Rangers game in person. In fact, despite loving hockey growing up, our family’s financial situation and not exact proximity to MSG would keep me from attending a Rangers game at MSG until I bought tickets myself in 2004 while attending law school in Philadelphia. Ironically, by the end of that year, Glen Sather had destroyed my love of the Rangers and I was fully entrenched behind the Flyers (who I was able to attend plenty of games with a dear friend whose parents had season tickets).

When I moved to Phoenix in 2005, I brought with me a 20+ year love affair with hockey and quickly began attending Coyotes games as often as possible. My wife was not raised caring for hockey (being from Baltimore she was pretty much a baseball fan only at this point), but she started to learn the rules, learn the players and develop a true love of the game. Now, we’ve had season tickets for 4 years, and despite the arrival of our baby girl this past November, we still attend almost every game.

Having NHL hockey in Phoenix is one of the great draws for me of the city. I love Phoenix for many other reasons, but if the Coyotes were to leave, it would definitely be a major subtraction to the overall culture here. What’s remarkable is that I think Phoenix would also quickly lose a substantial portion of its Canadian snow-bird residents who enjoy the ability to escape the snows of Northern Alberta or Saskatchewan and still see their favorite teams live in Arizona.

I’ve been blessed to have the ability to enjoy the sport I love in this way, and I don’t take that for granted. And I hope that one day, you will get to do the same in your city. In the meantime, though, if the Coyotes do stay in Phoenix as I hope, please take advantage of the opportunity to dethaw for a few weeks some winter and catch a few games in Glendale. I’ll even be happy to host you at our house so you can save some money.

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by Jordan Ellel on Mar 24, 2011 12:27 PM MST reply actions  

bq.My wife was not raised caring for hockey (being from Baltimore she was pretty much a baseball fan only at this point), but she started to learn the rules, learn the players and develop a true love of the game.

I can say the same for my Wife, before we’d met she’d been to one game (at America West on a high school trip). Now we’ve been to three Coyotes games (I’d have season tickets if I lived in Phoenix or even if I lived in Tucson) and she’s on the bleachers every game for my hockey team. She knows the rules of the game and has a love affair with watching Goalies operate.

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by TimmyHate on Mar 24, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

You know,

I am spending my time in the matchsticks and gas GDT against the Ducks…

No one has given me shit. In fact, one person said Phx is a nice city. I expected at least one person to be an ass. They are all cool. Makes me think…not all fans up there are evil…

I…thank you (Lauren) for your post and apologize for anything I have said derogatorily like the igloo comment.

  • buries hatchet*

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Mar 30, 2011 7:53 PM MST reply actions  

I must simply state that I couldn’t agree more. Some of the comment’s made by people regarding this situaton, and those similar to this one, disgust’s me. The simple fact of the matter is that this is the sport we all love and care about. I am glad that there are people out there (both Canadian and American alike), who care about the SPORT, not the politics behind it. I realise that it is a business and it is disheartening to know the Coyotes financial situation, and if profit is not a possibility, then business can’t be done. I will agree to the original poster by saying that I would be extremely excited if NHL were to return to Winnipeg, Manitoba; and also I will not raise hell if it does not. We are a city shy of 1,000,000 people, with a small but stable economy. Could we support it? Probably, but that is up to the NHL and business guy’s to decide. I wish all hockey lover’s the best in this, and hope everyone is happy regardless of the decision. Remember that this is all the sport we enjoy to watch. To most of us Winnipeger’s the Coyotes are still the Jet’s as the sign said at the final game against Detroit “Our Jet’s Will Fly Forever”.

by Kien Houk on Apr 18, 2011 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

To most of us Winnipeger’s the Coyotes are still the Jet’s as the sign said at the final game against Detroit "Our Jet’s Will Fly Forever".

I have to ask, and not to be an asshole so dont take it that way, does that mean you guys are rooting for the franchise in the playoffs? I just had assumed you’d be all for Detroit (or SJ, Col, Anaheim, STL, whatever other team we have played in the post season).
Then again I have paranoid anxiety, so it could be that.

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Apr 19, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

gotta go canadian....

haha the good old timeless american vs canadian teams…. i have to go with my homeland man! haha and since the nucks are the only ones left they’re my team for the year…

by Lauren Shodine on May 10, 2011 10:51 PM MST reply actions  

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