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Matt Hulsizer Guarantees Glendale Bond, Kills Goldwater Case

GLENDALE AZ - OCTOBER 16:  Matthew Hulsizer (C) CEO of PEAK6 Investments attends the NHL game between the Detroit Red Wings and the Phoenix Coyotes at Jobing.com Arena on October16 2010 in Glendale Arizona.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

In one fell swoop Matt Hulsizer may have just saved the Phoenix Coyotes and killed the threat of the Goldwater Institute's lawsuit. Hulsizer announced on Fox Sports Arizona's first intermission report that he has changed the deal in significant ways, getting the taxpayers of Glendale pretty much completely off the hook for the payments on default of the bond issue. Hulsizer said that he and the investors would guarantee the bond payments so that the city wouldn't be on the hook. Without knowing the specifics I'd say that what he's trying to say is that if there's a shortfall between the parking revenue and the payment on the bond that they'd make up the difference. Also of note is that Hulsizer said that immediately upon issuing the bond the City would get 25 million back. 

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How does this kill the Goldwater deal? Well what the group was arguing was that the projections for what would be earned back on the bond. The lowest estimate of any of the expert reports said between 60-80 million. If the city is basically issuing a bond for 75 million on that parking then that's no longer in anyone's definition of "vastly overpaying" or really overpaying at all. That fits right into the lowest of the three projections that have been made on the parking revenue. In addition Hulsizer reiterated that the ownership would be making payments in addition to those mentioned to pay off the original bond on Jobing.com arena and would pay 40 million for the arena itself at the end of it useful life (26 years from now)

In the second intermission Sen. John McCain and former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods both came on and said that this deal now satisfies the gift clause as outlined in the Arizona Constitution and that "The Goldwater Institute has done it's job and protected the taxpayers. Now it's time to move on to other projects." While the Institute may not answer to McCain it's certainly a shot to the gut for them as he's the leading politician in the state, is a conservative and has thus far stayed quiet, at least publicly, about the deal. 

At this point the deal is about as neutral as it can be without Hulsizer outright purchasing the team. As to why he's not doing that my opinion is that since the team itself isn't worth what the NHL paid for it out of Bankruptcy court and with the losses the team took on this year Hulsizer doesn't want to basically pay above market value for the team. That's why the bond helps out as even with the guarantee and adding in some more money back to the city it makes up for the gap. When a team like the Sabres is selling for 175 million, 160 or so for the Coyotes seems a little inflated.

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Get it done

Lets quite the c*ck waving now and get this deal done.

by JZerby on Mar 20, 2011 7:23 PM MST reply actions  

Winnipeg Troll influx in

3….2….1…..

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 7:43 PM MST reply actions  

Doubly so

We just got linked on TrollAZCentral

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Trolls are pretty thick

In the twitterverse. Making their uninformed and asinine observations as always

by Rob1966 on Mar 20, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

They’ll be banned posthaste.

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by Travis Hair on Mar 20, 2011 7:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Where’d they link us? I don’t see it.

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by Travis Hair on Mar 20, 2011 7:55 PM MST up reply actions  

in the Gameday chat

Looks like they’ve taken the chat down but I’ll find.

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Can’t find it in my comps history

Was on about page 35

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh wells. No worries. I put in a waiting period of a day just in case.

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by Travis Hair on Mar 20, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Awww

Come on, I like playing Wack-A-Troll :P

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Here we go

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/2011/03/20/20110320phoenix-coyotes-chicago-blackhawks-game-chat.html#comments

Page 35 of the comments.

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

We now will find out

If GWI reall has the interest of the "taxpayer at heart or if there is somehing else driving their obsession.
Should be pretty hard for them to keep opposition up now. But, I’m waiting with baited breath to see if they do. Still convinced there’s powerful money behind killing the deal.

by Rob1966 on Mar 20, 2011 7:45 PM MST reply actions  

Transcription of interview

http://phoenix.fanster.com/2011/03/20/hulsizerwalsh-intermission-interview-on-fsnaz-transcribed/

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by TimmyHate on Mar 20, 2011 8:18 PM MST reply actions  

Note on the Guarantee

Hey, Travis, I just wanted to comment on the latest news for your readers.

While we are all speculating, I would suggest that the guarantee from MH will not be to the bondholders themselves (which is what “guaranteeing the bonds” would be). Legally speaking, that might create some consideration issues. In order for such a guarantee to be enforceable, there needs to be consideration passing directly from one party to the other. Since MH does not have a contractual relationship with the bondholders, there would be difficulty in MH getting legal consideration for his guarantee (since MH gets his $100M from COG, not the bondholders).

I would expect that the guarantee would be from MH in favour of the COG itself. Since GWI’’s argument was in respect of potential shortfalls in the projected revenues (upon which the NPV of the parkign rights was based), I would expect that what MH will be guaranteeing is the parking revenues, in favour of the COG itself.

by Gerald on Mar 20, 2011 9:33 PM MST reply actions  

still leaves questions....

you guys must be pumped on that news.. not only will tax payers be off the hook so if everythign tanks you guys wou;dn’t be screwed but it makes it harder for gwi to do anything. i also heard that even if this whole new news wasn’t in the air that gwi would have to file an injuction before the bonds sold out in order for the case to have any sort of backing.. not sure how accurate that is…but i am kind of curious though what happens if the bonds don’t sell? are people going to buy them now that this has come up?… are you guys going to buy them? were you going to buy them in the first place before the gwi came about? why must tomorrow be monday?

by Lauren Shodine on Mar 20, 2011 10:11 PM MST reply actions  

THey’re not for sale to individuals. Usually large groups or large money individual investors buy them. Mutual funds, hedge funds, those kinds of things. I’d be all for owning a little bond on the team, but not how this works.

As to the injunction part that’s what seemed odd to me too. I mean I suppose they could file an injunction after, but why do it after when the deal has already been done and there’s a new owner? It just doesn’t make sense. I think it was more of a tactic to try and win by chilling the market. This should be done tomorrow or Tuesday because if it’s not we’ll know that GWI is just out for themselves and not to help anyone.

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by Travis Hair on Mar 20, 2011 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Congrats, you guys!

It’s always nice to wake up to read good news on a Monday morning. I’m very happy for y’all. I know this isn’t going to make the WinniTrolls shut up, but it’s something at leas to rub into their faces before Travis’ banhammer comes down.

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by hildymac on Mar 21, 2011 7:06 AM MST reply actions  

Very encouraging news from Hulsizer

Perhaps the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter? God I hope so.

As for the friends of Sauron i.e. the trolls, they will be going off about this developement. I haven’t read the AZ Central article and troll responses yet but they ought to be fun (and maddening) as usual.

As for the game. Bryz did well, team passing was not so great but the Hawks defended well, and a crappy call on Doan.

Thanks Matt for stepping up!

by RhysAZ on Mar 21, 2011 7:16 AM MST reply actions  

we can say its done almost

From Winnipeg I congratulate the fans and the taxpayers of Glendale.

 Looks as tho the team is saved. i like the wording of this article especially the financial part where it explains why MH did not just buck up for the whole team. The market value of the yotes is an important factor as what the NHL paid to get the team out of bankrupsy is not what the actual worth is. With the political input this is a done deal. It seems to me on the face of what I have read the right thing was done. The taxpayer has been protected. Finally in all this mess the taxpayer has been thought of in a way to protect them instead of fleasing them.
Please don’t take this next comment and say I am a TROLL because I truly mean this; I hope this is a call to fans of hockey to go out to games in Glendale. There is a lot of money in the yotes area and they need the support. This whole mess serves as a call to fans that there actions, or lack there of, serves the true financial result of the teams success. This is kind of a second chance. Not that the past is all the result of fans but a clear picture has been painted to the public to get out and support the yotes. I for one am happy for the fans of hockey there you guys deserve to scream for your team.

Go for the cup Phoenix !!!!!

by makemepuke on Mar 21, 2011 8:42 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks for your support and grace. I hope we can return the sentiment when the NHL does return to Winnipeg (and I do think it will happen eventually). I think once MH takes over the team and is able to actually start investing his money into the team itself the increase in marketing and quality of on-ice produce and in-arena production, you’ll see folks flocking to Glendale.

And this is one of the things that I think most people have neglected when evaluating these potential deals – MH is planning to spend money on the team itself once he is the actual owner. He’s said repeatedly that he’s not going to run a bargain-basement franchise and it could cost him some money over the next few years. But once he can get in there and actually start to run the business side of things, I think we will see nothing but good things for the Coyotes.

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by Jordan Ellel on Mar 21, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmm, not so fast

Well, I thought this basically sealed the deal but it’s being reported now that he didn’t actually guarantee payments for the bonds. Instead he guaranteed rent and fees on the arena that were already part of the lease agreement. I don’t know how those weren’t ‘guaranteed’ already if they were in the lease but that’s another issue entirely (for the record I have very little faith in governments negotiating effective contracts with private industry). As far as I can tell this really didn’t change anything to do with the bond deal, which is Goldwater’s case. Hulsizer is basically saying he’ll be paying $75M over the course of the lease so everything’s fine. Yeah, of course he’ll be paying over $75M in rent. I don’t know what they still owe on the $180M arena but it must be a lot more than $75M and you’d expect they would be recouping their costs from him through the lease duration. With interest on the original amount he should probably be paying well over $150M. But that’s a completely separate pot of money from the bonds.

I don’t really trust this guy to not just take a bunch of money from Glendale, setup a company to own and operate the team, have all agreements between this new company and Glendale, and stick around until Glendale stops paying him millions per year. After that, have the company declare bankruptcy and just walk away leaving Glendale with another $100M of debt to pay off and no tenant for the arena. For the municipality’s sake, hopefully that’s not the case. So far I haven’t seen much that would indicate this guy’s really interested in sticking it out long-term if things don’t pickup really quick. He isn’t even willing to actually buy the team with his own money so how long do we expect he’ll stay if the team keeps losing losing $30M/season? If he was going to guarantee the bonds he’d probably at worst end up putting in about $30-40M spread over a number of seasons. I’d be a little weary of expecting 30 years of arena use out of him if he’s shying away from a relatively small commitment like that which would allow him to finalize the purchase. Something tells me he really doesn’t care much about owning the team. Balsille would add a zero to that number and not think twice about it if it would get him a team.

by Stu_c on Mar 21, 2011 5:06 PM MST reply actions  

I think you misunderstanding what he is saying

He is saying that he gaurentees any shortfall from the bonds should they not recoup the full $100m – $25 once the bonds sell, plus $75m that he’s gaurenteeing.

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by TimmyHate on Mar 21, 2011 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

According to biased Canadian media, Goldwater has officially stated it will sue should the bonds be put up for sale. I haven’t been able to confirm this with non-biased media and the statement isn’t documented.

So either Goldwater is right in smelling something fishy about Holsizer’s offer and the deal in general or else the group has undisclosed reasons to see the team leave. Admittedly, Glendale is in the position of being a suburb that got in over its head and is desperate to keep its expensive arena from going largely dark. A minor league team would help but not equal what’s lost with an NHL team leaving.

Until there are new developments, it’s at the point where my chief concern is to see the hockey obsessed Canadian media remain disappointed in the Coyotes not leaving the US. The NHL is steadfast in wishing to keep out as many small markets as possible, especially from Canadian cities which are a poor draw and continue to keep the NHL from being a fully recognized major sports league.

To that end we might interpret the NHL’s silence on these developments as being a possible sign that there’re other markets being explored behind-closed-doors. Let’s recall Bettman’s cryptic remark about there being other options, plural, beyond automatically heading to Winnipeg.

by bob99 on Mar 21, 2011 7:25 PM MST reply actions  

Confirmation from the Goldwater website, of Hulsizer’s latest bond guarantee being insufficient to prevent a lawsuit as things stand. Dated March 21, 2011.

http://goldwaterinstitute.org/article/5850

by bob99 on Mar 21, 2011 8:59 PM MST reply actions  

interesting take on MH

Stu.

I read your take on this latest effort by MH on the gme network. I listened to it and read the transcript. Hard to understand Why the NHL has put so much stock in this guy and why they didnt see the potential problems with this deal. I guess what i am also saying is this is so sweet a deal for him and is a major tax burden on Glendale. It is like the NHL is condoning this half assd deal. I guess I see the NHL as complisit in the shafting of the Glendale people.

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I understand the points you are making but do not agree with asuming MH will put money into team to build it up and make more successful. He wont even throw in the 30 or 40 mil to get Goldwater off his back. Of all the times to put money where his mouth is would be now! If he threw an additional 40 mil on the table that would be the end of the Goldwater blockade. I am not a lawer or an accountant but if he wants this team he is going to have to put more of his own money into this deal. Makes me wonder how serious this guy really is.
I understand the Glendale city council saying " we are in this deep allready we need to save jobs and our investment" but is this the right guy? The NHL is just sitting back hoping that no one notices the risk and the cost the taxpayer is on the hook for. The way this deal reads to me the city of Glendale may as well buy the team and run it. Is that against the law?
From a purely practical standpoint who would sink money into a team that has lost over a half a billion dollars in the last 15 years? It’s going to be hard to find someone to take the leap, with there own money. Unless the yotes do well and get to the second round they will loose 40 plus million this year! I have a question. Even if this deal goes through and MH gets this sweeeet deal; why is he doing it in the first place? Lets say there was no Goldwater and it goes through; what is in it for him? Where is the money to be made? You know the next 7 years are not going to put money in his pocket; thats for sure. I can’t figure out why he is doing this. can someone do the math for me please? Whats in it for him in the current deal arrangment? I am getting the sence he will suck money out of this team and then fold his tent and Glendale will be right back where they started but in even more debt. Whats worse is the NHL must know this. They are not stupid.———- Just get the team to hang on a bit longer and we will see? Yeah right !
The more I here and think about this MH as the knight in shining armor the more I see him as the devil in disguise. I just can’t stand these obscenely rich guys getting even more wealthy on the backs of the taxpayer under the guise that they are helping the league, the city, etc, when in fact their plan is to screw the people for as much as they can and move on. Fing parisite. I am just pissed off as I thought this offer by MH was something that it wasn’t. It he was serious and really wants to own an NHL team for the long haul, seems to me 40 to 60 mil wouldnt or shouldnt stand in the way.

These are just my observations and i look forward to responces.

by makemepuke on Mar 23, 2011 11:58 PM MST reply actions  

SUPPORT!

Hey All,
I just wanted to pop in here and let you know I’m a San Jose Sharks fan and I’ve been following this saga loosely. Just wanted to show you guys and the Phoenix Coyotes some support! Even though they’re technically pacific division rivals I would really hate to see the Coyotes moved. The games they played against my Sharks this year were really good games, and Bryz is a beast of a goaltender. It’s BS to see a team that has come out really competitive like this possibly get folded and moved. I’m so tired of hearing of the “Bring back the Winnipeg Jets” war cries too. I read something on AZ central about this and started reading some comments on there from the Jets trolls… those people are bitter, souless excuses for human beings who are living a miserable existence with a nasty sense of hockey entitlement. They really think they deserve a team… but not just a team, THIS team. REALLY? I mean, yeah, I would probably be pretty miserable if I lived in a S***hole like Winnipeg, but some of their comments just crossed the line. If they want a team so damn bad, go out and form one, get GWI to finance it, and cry to the NHL to get an expansion for it. Oh by the way, haven’t we already tried this hockey experiment in Winnipeg, and it failed miserably? Yeah, remember that? They’re just jealous one of the Chief canadian exports is great hockey players…. because their leagues can’t compete with the NHL. And they rip on the American sense of national pride? Anyone else smell hypocrisy?

This whole thing has hints of the plot line to the movie “Slap shot”, and Whatever happens I hope the end result benefits the Coyotes and you guys get to keep them in Phoenix.

Best wishes and as I always end my posts on Fear the Fin, KEEP THE FAITH. Hope to see you guys on the face off dots next season, in Glendale/San Jose.

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