Should the Coyotes trade Kyle Turris? Some pros and cons
by Dude, The on Dec 9, 2011 10:01 PM MST
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At the start of the Coyotes’ season there was one story that wasn’t the main story but it always seemed to be on the back burner, the Kyle Turris hold out and whether the Coyotes would trade him away. Coyotes General Manager Don Maloney repeatedly said that he would not trade the 22 year old Center. As the deadline grew closer fans watched in anticipation wondering who was going to blink first. On November 22, 2011 GM Don Maloney announced that Turris had been resigned to a 2 year, $2.8 million contract. Fairly soon after the Coyotes announced the deal the discussion switched to the benefits of trading Kyle Turris, something that may have confused some fans, including me at first. Here are some of the pros and cons of trading Turris this season.
Pros:
- Turris holding out showed that he doesn’t want to be in Phoenix, his agent even told ESPN that they were looking for “the opportunity to move forward in his career by having a fresh start." A trade may get someone who wants to be in Phoenix
- To be honest, the Coyotes played their first 23 games without Turris and their record was impressive, proving that they may not need Turris
- A trade could hopefully get the team a player with a good Power Play record this season, Turris has skated on the Power Play line but Phoenix continues to come up short on the Power Plays
- Turris has had some unimpressive games, including his stats from the Nashville game where he had 0 shots and went 1-5 on faceoffs
- In his four games where he averaged around 11:30 on ice he has yet to get a goal, or assist
- With the recent coach firings it’s obvious that some teams are looking to shake up their teams, they may consider Turris to be a piece of their team and they may be willing to make a trade that will favor the Coyotes
Cons
- Other teams may be wary to pick up a player who held out the way that Turris did, as such it may make trading Turris this season difficult
- Other teams may value Turris less because he missed part of the season, which may mean the trade will be less beneficial then a trade later in the season
- Turris has had some impressive games, especially in his first game against Winnipeg where he had 4 shots on goal, the most on the team, and went 6-0 on faceoffs
- Turris has a history on the team and has chemistry with the players that a trade may not have.
Overall the decision whether or not to trade Kyle Turris will be left to people who work for the teams who know a lot more than I do, and are paid a lot more than me. Those people are also probably not going to read this, although it’s not like I’m saying anything that they probably do not already know. Overall I would say that Turris is a talented young player who has the potential to be a great player one day, either with the Coyotes or with another team¸ but I honestly doubt he will be with Phoenix long term.
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Trade Turris
The kid thinks he’s a #1 or a #2, and he definitely is not that given his history with the team. Could Tipp insert him on a scoring line to see what he would do? Certainly, but then he draws the #1 d-men of the oppostion, which might not be pretty. On the other hand, he may spark some scoring. Might is the key word here.
Let’s face it, if he cannot score in this league then he has no place in this league since he’s already proven that he abhors 4th line duty. So, instead of waiting to see if he can produce, why not trade him for someone who is a proven commodity? Makes sense to me, but we need a scorer in return. Let me repeat that. We need a scorer in return.
The challenge, of course, is to fit the budget and to not destroy the chemistry of the team. None of us know the latter point since we’re not inner circle, but I’m sure Tipp and GMDM do. Prospects are traded all the time, so why not one more, since we know he will be leaving as soon as he gets the chance.
I agree if he can’t score he should be traded the problem is finding a team who is willing to trade a player who can score now for a player who may be able to score in the future. Until he makes a goal this season it seems like a hard trade to make.
What I think the Coyotes should do is wait til the end of the season after he has scored a couple goals and then trade him to a team looking for a young player they can develop in exchange for an older player with a couple of years left with a proven record of goals. I really can’t see any teams looking to pick him up during this point in the season with the record he has had so far.
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Trade him for what you can get. We have a power play that would be better off refusing the penalty and continuing to play five on five. This is a sidebar but it would only help the team.
Turris doesn’t belong in this league. He wanders around looking lost a lot of the time, has no scoring punch and never goes to the corners. His fans point out that he had ten goals last year. Yeah, most if not all were garbage around the net. Not in front of the net , mind you, he doesn.t have the size or competitiveness to go there.
He gets beat up every time he goes in the tough places. Guys take the puck from him effortlessly and leave him sprawling.
He has speed. Unfortunately he also has Sjostrom Syndrome. That’s that unfortunate disease that causes the player to arrive at the net without the puck.
This kid was the unfortunate recipient of a Gretsky draft. Gretsky liked him because he reminded him of himself. He got here, all silky and fast but never had the talent that his coach did.
The problem with trading him now for what we can get is that he definitely has the potential to get something more during the offseason. He is good at faceoffs and he seems to have the potential be a better player than he is now with another team. I would say that it is a good idea to trade him but I would wait until the season is over where you could potentially get a better deal
he may become more valuable in the offseason...
if he picks it up, but otherwise I don’t think anything will change. I actually believe that if he can go on a little tear and maybe notch a few multiple point games that he may increase his value to an outside suitor looking for some scoring punch to a 3rd line or so… I don’t see his value being any higher in the offseason, teams tend to be a little more “giving” for the right piece if they think it will get them over the hump “this year”… In the offseason, you have to compete with free agency, so teams can basically get guys they like for “free” (other than their contract), as opposed to trading prospects, picks and players…
i wouldn't say that he does not belong in the league...
he is a capable player. He is also young and still has untapped potential. I don’t want another Briere type instance where the Coyotes under utilize/value a highly skilled player and then watch them reach full potential in their post-Coyotes years. Don’t get me wrong, I am not comparing the two players, and I do not believe that Turris has the ceiling of a Danny Briere, but I do think that he could be a valuable contributor with the right pieces beside him. I do think that the Coyotes should trade him and maybe a high pick for any good puck handling scoring threat that comes up available as the year progresses, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think he belongs on the team from a skill standpoint.
The Coyotes window is open, and they need to strike while the iron is hot. Other teams around them are going to continue improving, and when you are a first round exit the year prior, you cannot afford to par the course, eventually you will need to make some moves to even stay competitive, let alone become/remain a contender.
Regardless of our individual thoughts on Turris as a player or a person, we as Coyotes fans should be rooting for him. Whether it be to increase his trade value, or to simply root for him to become the contributor we all expect him to be, either way it helps the Coyotes… We should not be rooting against the guy or for him to fail, that only hurts the team and the value of their best trade chip (who is on a reasonable 2 year contract).
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