Coyote Tracks - #Y2IEH Tuesday June 8 Edition
by Jordan Ellel on Jun 8, 2010 6:00 AM MST
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PrintExtra day off for the Stanley Cup Finals tonight as the Flyers look to rebound on home ice Wednesday night and force a clinching game 7 with the Blackhawks in Chicago, thus following the pattern of the last 2 Stanley Cup Finals between the Red Wings and Penguins. We'll have more preview of that crucial game tomorrow morning, I'm sure.
The big news today is the Glendale City Council meeting tonight to approve the MOU with Ice Edge. While it's probably just a formality, if we can find Logan and other 7 year olds to sway crusty Glendale council members to vote for the MOU, it probably wouldn't hurt. I had a lengthy post about all of this last night, so let's not rehash it all. Just know that the meeting is open to the public, it's at 7 PM at Glendale City Council chambers (58th Avenue and Glendale)...if you need further motivation to go, the absolute best pizza in the valley is across the street at La Piazza al Forno - go early and get dinner!!
The other MAJOR news of the day is yesterday's launch of the SB Nation Arizona site. This regional hub was one of six launched by SB Nation yesterday and it is more than just a conglomeration of the various blogs for the Arizona based teams, but it includes original content and a revamped design. Make sure to check it out for all your Arizona sports needs and convince those fans that you meet there who may not be sold on the Coyotes about what a good thing we have going here and why they should want to get in now.
After the jump, more on the SB Nation regional sites, a look at free agent needs from the non-playoff teams out east, some great stats on single game ice time leaders of recent memory, and much more...
SB Nation Expands for Fans, by Fans Sports Sites - NYTimes.com
SB Nation, which is making a push into regional sports, has created a network of sites where like-minded fans can gather.
Free Agent Wish Lists - A Team By Team Peek At Needs And Solutions - From The Rink
With July 1 quickly approaching, we thought it would be interesting to review each team's needs and consider how they might solve those needs when free agency frenzy time arrives. What free agent will help push your team over the top?
Why MLS on Versus is good for the NHL - From The Rink
Could soccer and hockey share the same TV network in the US? How a MLS/Versus TV deal could benefit the NHL.
Comparing James van Riemsdyk to His '07 Draft Counterparts - Broad Street Hockey
Ah, the 2007 draft. Patrick Kane....and everyone else. The Flyers had the second pick in the draft after a truly catastrophically bad season and selected James van Riemsdyk. The Coyotes had a fairly dreadful campaign as well and selected Kyle Turris. How those players and others have fared since...
Ok, let's look at some Stanley Cup Finals news and information:
Quenneville's new lines finally get to Pronger - The Globe and Mail
A breakdown of what the Blackhawks coach did to reignite his team and take a 3-2 lead
2010 Stanley Cup finals: Philadelphia Flyers now trail Chicago Blackhawks 3-2 in series - ESPN
It would be tempting to write off the Flyers after their embarrassing Game 5 loss. Do they really have it in them to rewrite history yet again?
2010 Stanley Cup finals: Chicago Blackhawks answer the call in pivotal Game 5 - ESPN
The Blackhawks had a laundry list of necessary improvements to make to avoid seeing this series slip away from them. Sunday night, Chicago checked off all of them. (Funny how Burnside makes the point that it is foolish to write off the Flyers because the pattern is just like last year...and then LeBrun just completely writes off the Flyers...good stuff!)
Duncan Keith's case for the Conn Smythe - Puck Daddy - NHL - Yahoo! Sports
Bourne looks at why Duncan Keith may get the Conn Smythe if Chicago can clinch the Cup...
Stanley Cup finals ratings all good news - The Globe and Mail
Philadelphia-Chicago matchup scores big audiences in those cities – and Canada, too...
Cashing In On Dual Offer Sheets - The Copper & Blue
Ok...don't panic as this is just a potential strategy that we haven't really seen any GMs making use of in recent seasons. But, this potential play for some Coyotes RFAs scares the bejebus out of me.
Q&A With NHL’s Gary Bettman - 2010-06-07 04:01:00 | Broadcasting & Cable
The NHL commissioner talks about the Comcast-NBC Universal merger, the league’s upcoming rights negotiations and why hockey is a national sport.
'Behind the Stripes' to debut on NHL Network Monday - Officials
If you missed this last night (as I did), good news, it will run again next Monday. It certainly sounds like it could be very interesting.
Single-Game Ice Time Leaders - Behind The Net
A familiar face appears a lot on this list...Adrian Aucoin used to log the BIG ice time apparently. We knew he was a gamer, but man...over 40 minutes in a regular season game...that is craaaaazy.
SKA offers Kovalchuk $14M per year - NHL
Got an email from Alexander at russianhockeyfans.com, and decided I'd give him this link regarding a potential Ilya Kovalchuk offer from the KHL. The site looks like a pretty good resource for all news Russian hockey, or Russian hockey players, if that's your thing...
Hockey player’s dire battle against leukemia inspires thousands - Puck Daddy - NHL - Yahoo! Sports
Finally, we linked to a story about this last week, or the week before. But it really is one that deserves to be repeated. If you know someone, or you are someone, in a position to help, we encourage you to look into the site and see if you can get tested to determine your compatibility.
Ok, hopefully I'll see some of you tonight at the Glendale City Council meeting...if not, make sure to follow along @jordanellel as I hopefully will be tweeting the event.
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Reinsdorf is out!!!
YEs Reinsdorf came to his senses and pulled out. One down and one to go. Ice Edge has also already prepared for failure “saying their financing is not the same it was 45 days ago” what bank is going to lend these yahoos millions of dollars??
{{yawn}}
as noted in a previous post, this is NOT The first, nor the second time he’s “pulled out of negotiations”. Calm down and go back to watching the corn grow
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 8, 2010 8:36 AM MST up reply actions
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So could someone please tell me where Ice Edge is getting the money to buy the Coyotes? NO one seems to have the answer to that, not even Ice Edge.
Personally, I have no idea. But they are guys in the financing industry that are putting together a syndicate of folks, plus getting loans from banks.
But more to the point what exactly are you trying to accomplish here by just spouting off (ON A COYOTES FAN SITE!!!) that all the owners will be out and blah blah blah. We’ve discussed it ad nauseum already, but if all you want is to keep telling us we don’t deserve our team and no owners are going to be found and we’re moving to Winnipeg, than kindly piss off. I’m sorry if you think that’s rude, but I’m just tired of having to keep rehashing it. If this is all you have to add to the discussion than this will be the end of the discussion. There are plenty of folks commenting on plenty of articles posted by the Winnipeg Free Press and the Globe and Mail that share your beliefs. Feel free to go and join them.
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They joined solely to whine about Winnipeg.
/surprise
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 8, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
well said
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on a unrelated note
I think this will be my new Phoenix Goal image.
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Supporting my Desert Dogs since 1996 from 6000 miles away
!AWOOOOOOOOO! (oh and GO FLAMES GO)
Well lets see
These are smart businessmen – they’re hardly ‘yahoos’ as you put it.
I’m sure they have things organised but ‘suprise suprise’ are holding their cards close to their vest – something that in this market I don’t blame them for doing.
>IF< (and thats a big if) they don’t have their ducks in a row we will know soon – they got the exclusivity by promising a balance sheet in 10 days. I doubt they’d have made that kind of concession or agreement if there wasn’t something in stone – or at the very least in ready-pour concrete.
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That last point is a really good one and something I just completely brain-farted on discussing above or in my ownership mess deal. This could all be a lot of posturing by IEH. They wanted the exclusivity concession and now they have it, but with a real short window to show that proof of financing. if they weren’t ready with that type of proof this would be a pretty big folly.
Also, I notice that @IceEdgeDJ is being awful quiet today (maybe he’s on a plane to Phoenix or something). The only times I remember him being really quiet is when they have things really working behind the scenes. So I’m just going to take the wait and see approach on this.
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really thats all we can do right now is hurry up and wait.
@IceEdgeDJ is being quiet could be either good or bad – I’m secretly hoping they’ll do the same as last time and send up a funny pic or make a smart ass tweet or just SOMETHING – that picture of Howler Throwing the snake still makes me smile a little.
The regulars on FFH know my love for this team. It kills me that I can’t be at the meeting supporting the only professional sports franchise that I feel any connection with.
On my cubical wall I have a coyotes logo, a picture of Doan and my 2010 White Out badge and I have my coyotes hoodie with me. The meeting is at 7pm AZ time ya?
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yeah, we’ll be pushing your support of the team for sure. And the meeting is at 7 PM. It’s likely to be streamed on the internet, but I can’t remember where they feed it. I’m guessing off of the City of Glendale website.
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sadly no streaming media allowed at work – can’t even watch work related stuff which sucks.
I’ll be on twitter on my phone tho so I’ll stay in the loop.
This is a big day..
If my understanding is correct – if the MOU is approved then it moves onto the NHL BOG to approve IEH as the owners?
heh acronym city there – NHL, MOU, BOG, IEH…
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I don’t think it’s that far along. If MOU is approved, it gives IEH 10 days to show financing to Glendale, followed by a 50 day exclusive window to negotiate a formal AMULA and the associated documents that will establish the ownership and operations of the team. At that point, Glendale will recommend IEH to the NHL for it to do its due diligence and get a vote of the BOG for approval of IEH as owners. So, we’re still a ways away, but tonight is a big first step.
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so...
Approving IEH’s MOU gives a AMULA so IEH can prove to COG that IEH has the money. COG then reccomends IEH to the NHL for BOG to approve IEH as owners?
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sweet.
Now from what I understand the COG has already basically agreed that they’re gonna approve the MOU? And the public meeting is basically a formality?
All I can say is this better no be a powerplay by IEH. Hopefully it all goes through and they have the money – maybe they can even own the team before the draft?
While that may be optimistic, having owners in place prior to needing ANY withdrawl from the escrow account would obviously be a hugh Coup – both for the COG and for IEH.
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Yeah, tonight’s meeting should be a mere formality. As to owning the team before the draft (or start of free agency), I would doubt it. I would say it is more likely that given the current timeframe, they may be able to complete the purchase by the end of August/beginning of September. What they can (and likely will) do is if things are moving along in a good direction, they should be able to give a budget number to Don Maloney (assuming he doesn’t already have one) for him to start dealing with the free agent questions and what-not.
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Ah
Which hopefully means we can start discussing who to keep/cut/deal
Only 4 Months to season opener
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I feel for you guys
I’m not really a message board person, but my google search on this subject lead me to your site and since I know how you guys are feeling..
I am from Winnipeg, born and raised (insert any joke you may have here :)) and no I’m not going to yell that you stole our team or this is all justice etc etc because that’s not what happened and we all know it. A Phoenix Coyotes fan did not come up here and pick up the Jets and take them home. I totally understand how you guys are feeling right now and the ups and downs of one day being told your team is staying and the next being told there’s no chance for you and you better get used to it, back and forth until you have no idea what’s going on. Trying to remain optimistic but also really worried. I was at the last ever Jets game and I remember the players on the ice crying and waving and the fans in the stands crying (even grown men) knowing this was finally the end of it. It was awful and I don’t wish that on anyone. As stupid as it sounds it was probably one of the only times I’ve ever seen my dad tear up (I know I guess I’ve luckily had a pretty tragedy free life – knock on wood).
I was 15 when the Jets left here and my Dad was a season ticket holder I believe since the mid-70s when they were still in the WHL and went to nearly every game. I have two brothers and we’d all three alternate games with him (I am female btw in case that makes any difference at all, probably explains the long post!). I remember the last few years when we were jerked around and told that we were too small and had a crappy arena and we didn’t deserve a team anymore, despite how dedicated the fans were. Did we sell out every regular season game? No we didn’t, maybe going outside on a Tuesday night in -30C weather was too much for some :), but as a city we supported them and man, the White Outs in the playoff were something to see.
We were told the league just got too big for us and well too bad for you. It was really hard and yes it was just a hockey team but it really was our one ticket to something MAJOR I guess and it was leaving. I think that whole event matched the feeling of the city at the time, always feeling dumped on, everyone telling you that you’re not good enough etc etc and I think we believed it. It’s enough to give any city a complex! But in the last 5 or so years I really think we’ve tried to change that, we built a new arena, just broke ground on a new stadium, new museums and are moving forward with things as finally all the naysayers of this city (and there are plenty) don’t get to win. And I think believing we can have an NHL team again goes with that and would just give another boost to this city. I’m not going to make this about who’s city is better and building up Winnipeg (ok maybe too late), but I think it might make you understand a bit why this issue makes some of us a little crazy and why getting “our team” back feels like giving us a lot of our pride back. And I know some of you don’t care to understand and want the pro-Jets people to give up and go away and let you guys deal with your situation, and that’s totally fair, not going to happen, but fair! Just know that many of us feel your pain.
That being said, I feel awful that what we want has to equal you guys losing out. That’s not the way it should be at all. I’m not going to bash the support level for your team because that doesn’t matter, those who are fans are still going to have to go through the same process we went through. I don’t know what the outcome will be, maybe you guys will be luckier than we were and then that’s awesome for you, but maybe you won’t and that will be difficult for you. We know what it’s like for everyone else to say we shouldn’t have the team anymore etc etc so it bugs me when people do that to you.
So good luck on this and maybe it will all get settled for you in the next few months with a positive outcome. For your fans I hope so, for Winnipeg I hope not but just because we are hoping for opposite things doesn’t mean you can’t have respect for the other side, because believe me, we’ve been there.
Welcome...thanks for joining.
I appreciate the sentiment and that you aren’t here simply bashing us.
My only quibble with your post is that there is another avenue that doesn’t involve us losing a team at your expense and that is that the league could expand…and we support the hell out of the idea! I know that generally with the financial situation in the world, this might be less likely to happen, but it is definitely something that can and probably should happen in the near future. So here’s hoping that the Coyotes are still around when the NHL does give a team back to Winnipeg and we can enjoy the rivalry as our teams battle in the Western Conference together. And, to be honest, while I love that the Coyotes support remembering the history and traditions of the Jets, when you get an expansion team (I’m going full bore on this optimistic ideal), you are welcome to take it back. I think one thing that the Coyotes really need to do is forge their own identity to some degree and start some traditions of their own….oh, and you can’t have Shane Doan either :)
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by Jordan Ellel on Jun 8, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, I wish we could get an expansion team as well so no one has to lose out, however I don’t think they (Chipman etc) would ever be able to afford the crazy expansion fee and it doesn’t seem like the NHL wants to add more teams any time soon. I think we’re realistic on that fact. I guess most Winnipeggers don’t feel guilty about taking a team from a city (particularily yours) because someone was ok with taking ours from us. You got your team at the expense of Winnipeg, it never seems to be a clean situation. Sure that’s petty but I’m not sure how bad anyone there felt for us when they became the Coyotes, but I won’t assume on that one, maybe there were a few of you :).
And I totally agree with you about making your own history. I never really understood why they chose to keep the Jets history, it was a different team and should have started from scratch. Maybe it was to try to make Winnipeg feel a bit better or something, but really I figured the Jets were gone and why pretend otherwise? Doesn’t make sense to keep numbers retired on a jersey that those players never wore, maybe it was because some of staff from here ended up going with the team and wanted a connection. My brother’s friend moved with the team and still works for them now.
Ok Shane Doan is yours now, that’s fair, but the Jets were his first, and you never forget your first ;)!
No city has ever taken a team from another. This is what happens.
Rich old guy takes a team that he bought (purchase dependant on him not intentionally bankrupting the team, and probably paid for with the tears of orphans.)
Said rich old guy then claimed that he was “losing money” so he could move the team to somewhere financially convienent to his other assets. This is how rich old guys stay rich. Those BMWs aren’t free, you know.
It’s really not any more than that.
Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Then…
Step 2:
Sell to another rich old guy/co-conspirator.
Step 3:
Repeat step 1.
Luckily for sports fans. League Dictators Commisioners were created specifically to make this process as painful and time consuming as possible for all parties.
Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
My my, very cynical, but true I suppose. I don’t know if that’s ALWAYS the case, since having an NHL lately doesn’t seem to be the way to make your millions grow unless you are in Montreal or Toronto, but I’m definitely not an expert on that.
What is the feelings towards Gary Bettman in Phoenix these days? Do you think he’s great for trying so hard to keep the team there or do you see him as just playing everyone against each other? Always going for the $$?
Appreciate that he outwardly states that he thinks the Coyotes can work in Phoenix…kinda pissed at him that he definitely appears to be playing each side against the other, particularly with Winnipeg and Phoenix.
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by Jordan Ellel on Jun 8, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
It wasn’t so much about the coyotes in general as all the franchise relocations in history. Heck, the NHL was founded entirely to get rid of one of the NHA’s owners without violating contract law. Or, when the North Stars were basically kidnapped during the night. I don’t follow the NBA, but i imagine all their franchises moving around have similiar stories.
in this case, the owner was losing money on the Coyotes but had convienently purchased land in Glendale before deciding to build an arena there (thus increasing its value.)
In the past, other creative methods were used, such as pocketing team-related revenue streams that weren’t directly related to the team (like arena naming rights and royalties and the like) causing them to “lose” money when they actually turn a profit. Or just good ol’ fashioned “Creative accounting.”
On Gary Bettman, people need to keep in mind his job is to make as much money for the owners as possible. He’s very good at his job.
Personally, I’m certain that there is no way Bettman is going to let the team be moved until at least after the new US television contracts are signed. (Which is next year?) It would give the networks way too good of a bargaining chip to lower the size of the TV contracts.
Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
Or
Using the team to prop up his other business and classing it as ‘hockey expenses’…in the lockout year.
Not naming anyone in particular
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Bettman = He butters up really nice-like
the same way he does you.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 8, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
Wanna make out?
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 8, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
who else but Ghost
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Supporting my Desert Dogs since 1996 from 6000 miles away
!AWOOOOOOOOO! (oh and GO FLAMES GO)
Awoo
Good news – vote passed.
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