Coyote Tracks - Monday May 10 Edition
by Jordan Ellel on May 10, 2010 6:00 AM MST
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Gah...seriously. I really thought we got all of this crap out of our system last year, right? Now it's back to square one it seems. Thank god for @IceEdgeDJ who is keeping a fine sense of humor on things...Apparently, as Travis noted, Shoalts isn't taking the olive branch...oh well.
So basically, every Coyotes link that is in my Google Alert is related to this ownership mess. Lovely. You know what I want to talk about, free agents, recapping last year, how can we advance to the 2nd round, etc. But instead, we get to focus on this...I'm soooooo thrilled. I think Ghost covered my feelings pretty well the other day, so I will spare you all my rant. I encourage everyone to attend the Glendale City Council meeting on Tuesday and let the charming folks on the council how you feel about their handling of the situation. I'll have links to these stories below the jump with a very little bit of commentary relating to a quote I saw in one of the articles that just pisses me off to no end.
In other hockey related weekend news, the Flyers and Canucks staved off elimination, the Red Wings did not...more playoff hockey is always good, so I'm sure many of you share my happiness that the Flyers and Canucks are forcing more games...I'm sure the collective animosity towards the Red Wings means that you are only upset it took them 5 games to be eliminated.
LAST NIGHT'S NHL SCORES: Canucks 4 - Blackhawks 1 (Chicago leads series 3-2)
Video: Sami Salo reportedly suffers ruptured testicle in Game 5 - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Last night, also, that happened...ouch....I remember when this happened to Patrick Thoreson two years ago...not good, not good at all...
After the jump, ownership mess, ownership mess and more ownership mess, nepotism and Zbynek Michalek, and Yotesgurl's first reflections on last season...
Let's start with non-owneship stuff...
The Pack " The Good, The Bad, The Coyotes
Very, very nice read...
From the Files of the Fiscally Insane: Another Offseason Thought
Looking at the Senatorspossibly signing Zbynek Michalek. He's going to get a lot of attention on the open market, which is why the ownership mess needs to get straightened out already...I'm not sure my Czech loving wife can take it...
Time is money as Glendale decides Coyotes' fate: Hotstove
Ok, here's the start of the never-ending ownership linkage...and there's a quote from this article that makes me just want to put a whole in the wall:
HNIC analyst Glenn Healy threw cold water on the notion that the Coyotes would end up anywhere but Winnipeg. Gate receipts were down 30 per cent last year in Phoenix, he added. "You can't exist in the NHL with that," Healy said. "In my mind it's clear — it has to be Winnipeg."
Ok, Glenn Healy was a solid goalie...played back-up for the Rangers team that won the cup in 1994. Always generally thought he was a good guy. But this is the asinine lazy-ass bull-crap that folks toss out when they are lazy-ass terrible journalists. As we've dissected, the Coyotes overall gate receipts for last year were down significantly...perhaps even as much as 30%. But the vast majority of this "down" was caused by the summer of hell and the abysmal attendance figures seen the first few months of the season following an offseason where very few season tickets could be sold. In 2008-2009, the Coyotes had a very steady average attendance of just under 15,000 fans, for a non-playoff team...
The Coyotes should be riding into next season on a wave of good faith after the incredible year they've had this year, and should be able to coast into an opening month of sold out stadiums that some good play will carry forward through the entire year. Instead, the longer this mess continues without resolution, the more this goodwill gets squandered, and the more likely that once again the Coyotes will need to win back the fans that sold out the final 8 home games last year...good job people calling the shots all around. Way to screw the pooch even further.
Ok, that's it for my mini-rant. The rest of the way, all I've got are more takes on the ownership...read at your own risk...
The Western Hockey Exchange: Making Sense of This Nonsense
[s/t Puck Daddy for this...don't know the site, but will keep on following...good read]
The Associated Press: Source: City, Ice Edge near lease deal for Coyotes
Coyotes are looking like 1995 Jets
I've finally figured out what's happening in Phoenix: It's Winnipeg in 1995 all over again.
Ice Edge, Glendale discussing Coyotes purchase
Ice Edge Holdings Inc.'s chances of acquiring the Phoenix Coyotes were suddenly revived Friday, and
Coyotes Deal in Chaos - Slap Shot Blog - NYTimes.com
The city of Glendale, Ariz., may have to go back to potential buyers it rejected last month.
Hockey Blog In Canada: What A Tangled Web
Alright, tonight' the Flyers try to again fight off elimination and force the series back to Philadelphia for a sixth game, Montreal does the same in Pittsburgh. Enjoy!!!
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The more I mull on this ownership mess
The more it knots my mullet (s/t to puck daddy for that).
COG f**ked this. Royally. Totally. F**KED IT.
I just want my team to stay in Arizona. I just want 2011 to be a year where the coyotes are not the ‘cinderella story’ of coming out of bankrupcy to make the playoffs. I just want 2011 to be the year that the Coyotes can be EXPECTED to make the playoffs. I just want the ‘analyists’ to put them SOMEWHERE in the rankings this year.
I just want the Coyotes to be another Team in the NHL. Not the NHL’s team.
I’m tired guys. I really am. This ownership situation is gettimg more and more like a cluster f**k everyday.
Is it too much to hope it’ll be over soon….
please?
I need a hug
Supporting my teams from 6000 miles away!
HOWL! LETS GO COYOTES!!
>>>Hugging<<<
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by Jordan Ellel on May 10, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Thank you.
Stupid ownership situation.
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Indeed…I like the new avatar.
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by Jordan Ellel on May 10, 2010 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
An interesting article
http://www.bettingonhockey.net/coyote-ugly-jets-should-land-in-winnipeg-but-not-with-dogs-aboard/
Some quotes:
bq. In a perfect NHL, there would be teams in Winnipeg, along with Quebec and Hamilton, and the Coyotes would remain in Phoenix.
As much as I am not a fan of the NHL going into non-traditional hockey markets, the fact is, if teams win on the ice, they will succeed at the gate.
However I don’t like the closing comments
Kudos Winnipeg, for getting back your beloved Jets. I guess fans in Phoenix now will just have to wait for the Panthers to become available.
Supporting my teams from 6000 miles away!
HOWL! LETS GO COYOTES!!
tap tap
Hellllo? Is this thing on?
boring work day
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sigh....
taking a break from studying for Finals this week and came across this: talks break down, again
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 10, 2010 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
I think the only words I have right now...
are F***!
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Coyotes ownership trends
When broken down by city – Phoenix,Tempe and Tucson are the top three, followed by Winnipeg.
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I'm surprised
the moon isn’t in the top 5.
out of words for this right now….
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 10, 2010 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
I'm at work...
…and i actually want to cry…
I’m just…god…f**king damnit.
.
.
.
we were so close.
.
.
……
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yeah, we were.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 10, 2010 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Firesale
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My heart goes out to you.
As someone who lost a team exactly 30 years ago this month (the Flames) and a 10-year fan of a team the Bitter Queens of the Toronto Hockey Media would love to relocate, my heart goes out to you.
by Black ice in Alabama on May 10, 2010 9:18 PM MST reply actions
I feel sick
Physically sick.
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They could be gone guys…
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.
I don’t want to think it
.
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.
but they could be gone.
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WTF?!
This is the worst feeling ever. I feel totally played. F Glendale, F Ellman, F Moyes for being a friggin moron, F Reinsdorf, and did I say F Glendale? Can’t f’n believe we’re losing our team for real. Never thought this would really happen… Guess I learned to never underestimate the stupidity of elected officials. All IEH wanted was an exclusivity – pretty small request given how they got screwed over before, but guess it was too much. Stay classy Glendale, I can guarantee that Winnipeg is more likely to see my money before u will again.
by phxcoyotes09 on May 10, 2010 10:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Pffft
You’ll live another day. The NHL is just telling Glendale to quit dicking around with the lease and work things out with an owner or they will either A-Force Glendale to cover costs or B-Move. While horribly written stories make it unclear, the impression is that the NHL will only make the city cover costs if the NHL is still the owner and not ice edge/Chicago guy(whatever his name was). The city won’t cover the costs period so that option is just to apply pressure. The reason chicagoguy backed out is because the city of glendale was jerking him around on a lease deal. If the team moves or has to cover costs they either wont have a tenant or lose more money anyway so the NHL is just forcing them to quit screwing around with the arena. You will still have a team next year.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Keep in mind, when lawyers (and/or politicians) are involved, most the stuff the media gets is just posturing and leverage, or blatent lies. Especially Toronto Globe and Mail, who probably gets all their info from Eklund, or any other random internet crackpot that gives them a quote that Canadians want to hear.
This is what happens when your owners are criminals. As a Sabres fan, i feel your pain (it wasn’t even 10 years ago that we were “100% moving to Winnepeg [or Quebec, or wherever else was cool at the time]”.) I’m sure TSN posted 100,000 articles about how the Sabres were moving to winnepeg, couldn’t support a franchise, didn’t deserve a franchise… etc… Then we activated “Really rich guy with lots of political friends” plan and were saved.
Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism
Tyler Ennis: Freed from Portland!
lol
look as much as i like the Coyotes and i do you said they had a very steady average attendance of just under 15,000 fans, for a non-playoff team…if Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton Or Vancouver don’t have a playoff team they will still fill the stadium up to the rim i personally want a tea to come back to Canada there isn’t even snow in Arizona i know you guys love your team like i love the Habs but they had a good run now its time to come back to a place where hockey matters like Winnipeg or Quebec city i do believe there are fans of of the desert dogs honestly in Arizona hockey like what 4th biggest team collage football is more important then hockey in Arizona so f—— you all thinking this is a tragedy the real tragedy happened in 95
Dude
Its called a period. Learn to use it.
And if we have a steady attendance of just under 15,000 thats the same as Winnipeg anyway.
And since you said so f—— you all thinking this is a tragedy the real tragedy happened in 95, well Fuck you too.
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opps, formatting error
Its called a period. Learn to use it.
And if we have a steady attendance of just under 15,000 thats the same as Winnipeg anyway.
And since you said so f—— you all thinking this is a tragedy the real tragedy happened in 95, well Fuck you too.
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To beat a dead horse...
I’m not saying that a steady average attendance of under 15,000 is acceptable, but for a team that was enduring it’s 8th consecutive playoff-less season, it certainly wasn’t anything to sneeze at. And yes, the 6 Canadian markets will always draw well…what exactly does this have to do with Phoenix?
Nobody here doesn’t want Canada to get more teams…and we don’t condone what happened in 1995…but to say “fuck you” to the Coyotes fans is just ridiculous. I’m so fucking sick of this mentality that we don’t deserve professional hockey…why the fuck not? Give me one good reason why I should have to put up with not having professional hockey in the city I live in. I love it, I support it, I try and get friends to go to games, and I want my kids to play in youth organizations (when I have kids). Yeah, we don’t get snow in Phoenix…big frickin’ deal. I didn’t realize it was a pre-requisite. Expand the league, get teams in all Canadian cities, but don’t tell us that we don’t deserve hockey…
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by Jordan Ellel on May 11, 2010 5:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well said.
I’m so fucking sick of this mentality that we don’t deserve professional hockey…why the fuck not?
Nobody here doesn’t want Canada to get more teams…and we don’t condone what happened in 1995…
How fucking dare ANYONE question Coyotes fans passion. or if we deserve a team.
WE put up with all this bullshit for the past two years. And we don’t fucking deserve our team.
Sorry. But FUCK. YOU to anyone who says we don’t deserve our team.
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Supporting my Desert Dogs since 1996 from 6000
!AWOOOOOOOOO!
you got me all wrong
not saying that there aren’t coteries fans. and im sure you guys deserve a team its about money and i think that Phonix doesn’t have the financial backing like Winnipeg in 95 both are disappointing there are other locations in the us and not trying to be rude but your team with other like Florida, Dallas,Anaheim, Atlanta and Columbus its not your guys fault. I’m just fed up with all this bullshit but they should of been sold to Jim Balsillie should have had your guys team last year
I don’t see how we got you all wrong when you are saying:
i know you guys love your team like i love the Habs but they had a good run now its time to come back to a place where hockey matters like Winnipeg or Quebec city
and
i do believe there are fans of of the desert dogs honestly in Arizona hockey like what 4th biggest team collage football is more important then hockey in Arizona
and
so f—— you all thinking this is a tragedy the real tragedy happened in 95
It’s a bit hard to take you too seriously beyond that. To be honest, with your lack of punctuation and grammar it’s really hard to tell anything you are saying. So take your time, breathe deeply and feel free to write it out clearly. I’m happy to debate certain concepts about how much is too much for Glendale to commit and what’s the appropriate level of a CFD, and what-not. But for you to say you are tired of the bs and that Balsillie should’ve bought the team…that type of talk gets you banned around here. So if that’s where you want to go with it, fine…but I’ll let you know now that your next post will be your last here…
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by Jordan Ellel on May 12, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
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