Coyote Tracks - Whiteout Tuesday April 13 Edition
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 6:00 AM MST
in Phoenix Coyotes Daily Links
Email
PrintOk, seriously, I could make this entire links post about the phenom that was #ThrowTheSnake. I will highlight the best posts after the jump including video in Canada, and serious attention from the hockey blogosphere. If there ever was a reason for hockey fans to be on Twitter, #ThrowTheSnake was it.
But, let's be honest, we have a playoff series upcoming against one of our least favorite teams. A team that has been so spoiled by the last 10 years of success (over 100 points in each year and multiple Stanley Cups), that they've forgotten what it's like to be an underdog...or just bad. Like those teams from the 80s and early 90s. The bandwwagon "fans" of the Red Wings have merged right in with the real deal, and they do love to invade Jobing.com Arena and harrass Coyotes fans...or just send annoying emails to Travis.
Well, the Red Wings are getting much love from the pundits, what with their depth of experiences in the playoffs (we'll ignore the all too recent flameouts against Anaheim and Edmonton), and their stellar play post-Olympics. And we are going to have a fabulous series in my opinion. Let's just keep it clean and make sure that nobody gets hurt...
After the jump, playoff predictions start to roll in, Tiki returns from Russia, and a recap of one of the most active days in Five For Howling history...
First, Prediction Central:
NHL Playoff Predictions: The Western Conference
In part one of the 2010 NHL playoff preview, here is a look at all of the Western Conference match-ups, and who is favored to win.
First-round breakdown: Phoenix Coyotes versus Detroit Red Wings - ESPN
The Hollywood scripts says Phoenix, but reality says the Big Red Machine. Detroit, the hottest team in hockey since the Olympic break, isn't going down in the playoffs this early.
NHL playoffs 2010 - Timo Seppa: A guide to goalies in first-round matchups - ESPN
Timo Seppa of Puck Prospectus analyzes the first-round goalie matchups of the 2010 NHL playoffs using a heat index formula. The good? Quite possibly Jaroslav Halak, even against a loaded Capitals team. The bad? Maybe Martin Brodeur. (Yes.)
Now, a recap of #ThrowTheSnake:
As an aside, probably solely related to #ThrowTheSnake, this site had an incredible traffic day yesterday with almost 4,000 visits and over 6,750 page views. We hope people will keep coming back for all your Coyotes news and notes...we'll be here.
Detroit Fans Throw Octopi, But Will Coyotes Fans Throw The Snake? - SB Nation
Here is the brief history of how it came to be...
Twitter / Search - #ThrowTheSnake
Here, is what it became on Twitter...
#ThrowtheSnake poisons Twitter's puck talk - ProHockeyTalk - Hockey - NBC Sports
A few tips if #ThrowTheSnake becomes a reality - ProHockeyTalk - Hockey - NBC Sports
Coyotes ignore fan deluge of plastic playoff snakes at own peril - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
When it truly became epic, Travis even gave an interview with Puck Daddy...
YouTube - #throwthesnake gets on TV
Unbelievable - the Canadian media gets in on the act...
Travis' wife supports the movement...
But in the end, the Coyotes have likely put the kibosh on any snake throwing...
Phoenix Coyotes Hockey on AZ Vibe " The Coyotes and their fans need to take a step back with this ‘Snakes’ thing
And AZVibe has a quite sensible take on everything as well. Everyone needs to take a step back. As I raised in the comments on Travis' articles linked to above, if fans want to email the Coyotes and seek a solution, there's a draft email to the marketing department provided. I doubt they are going to budge, and in that case we need to just move on. Bringing the snakes as "rally snakes" and waving them over our heads after goals could work...finding something completely new to do in the next 36 hours might also be a solution. Regardless of what happens, wear white, and get ready to be loud...and be passionate. Because in the end, that's what #ThrowTheSnake was really all about, our passion for the Coyotes. So let's channel that into giving the boys on the ice the extra energy they need to take it to the Wings on Wednesday, ok?
Future Coyotes Owners:
azcentral.com blogs - Brahm Resnik blog - Brahm1700 - Ice Edge fights for an edge
The Ice Edge group is seeking any kind of edge it can get in these last hours before the Glendale City Council vote Tuesday on memoranda of understanding with Ice Edge and Jerry Reinsdorf, the two potential buyers of the Phoenix Coyotes.
Things that didn’t quite make it in the Ice Edge Holdings’ and Reinsdorf’s memorandums with the City of Glendale | Fanster.com - All Sports. All Phoenix.
Ok, this is just some early whimsy...
Miscellany:
Phoenix Coyotes' Viktor Tikhonov regains his step after visit to Russia
Viktor Tikhonov went to Russia's Kontinental Hockey League to prove he belonged with the Coyotes. A real nice article from Sarah McClellan on my favorite Russian Coyote who appears to be younger than Justin Bieber.
Underdogs…..Faith…….Yandleface " The Good, The Bad, The Coyotes
YotesGurl and I agree wholeheartedly...I want a Keith Yandle ^5...I already got my Yandle jersey ready for the whiteout...
Phoenix Coyotes Hockey on AZ Vibe " NHL News for the week – NHL Goal of the year?
Here's your NHL News for the week. First off you all have to see this simply amazing goal by Daniel Sedin of the Vancouver Canucks
SB Nation's Hockey Bloggers Pick The 2010 NHL Awards - SB Nation
Writers at SB Nation's 30-plus hockey blogs have weighed in with nominees from each team for the 2010 NHL Awards. Who should head home with the hardware?
And, as if #ThrowTheSnake wasn't enough whimsy...
online video - channel 12 news video - arizona republic video - phoenix video
Ilya Bryzgalov on 12 News...fantastic stuff here.
69 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Kinda sad that the article that picked the Coyotes to win in seven had Detroit as the fourth seed and Phoenix as the fifth.
Still, she’s more accurate than Eklund.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 13, 2010 6:24 AM MST reply actions
Did I just watch AZ reporters coerce Bryz into doing "Night at The Roxbury" karaoke?
/world
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 7:33 AM MST reply actions
lol. snagged this off of twitter:
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 7:50 AM MST reply actions
It’s amusing to me to see Coyotes fans/writers calling Wings fans bandwagoners. how many people showed up to watch the Coyotes early in the season? How many show up now? why the change? could it be that the Coyotes started winning? if that’s not the definition of “bandwagon fan” then I don’t know what is.
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/04/13/13562326-torsun.html
The Coyotes started out slow as well, though for dire reasons. Prior to February, it was a rare night when more than 10,000 showed up even with deeply discounted tickets. The final four games of the regular season were standing room only.
that, right there, is an arena full of bandwagon fans.
I’m curious – will they print the rules of the game in the arena program like they used to do in Denver?
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 8:29 AM MST reply actions
No, they'll givs us handbooks on how to skin a Red Wings fan and use their coats for warmth.
I’m sure there’s a wetsuit joke in there somewhere, but I’ll refrain.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
Speaking of teams that can’t sell out playoff games there are tons of seats in the lower bowl for game 3 in Detroit still available.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
But at least they don't sell out wiith class and honor
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
yeah it’s been like that the past few seasons. people in Detroit are fed up with it costing $500 to take your kids to a hockey game. it has always irked me that Illitch didn’t lower prices of tickets and concessions when the salary he pays out went down by $30 million a year because of the salary cap. it’s really unfortunate.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
$500?
Maybe Detroiters should stop having 12 kids.
http://cdn.nhl.com/redwings/v2/ext/splash_pages/30DollarTicktet_Rnd2and2_v1.jpg
by twoeightnine on Apr 13, 2010 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
Call up and see if you can get those tickets in a block of four. If not, find out what the other ticket prices are. Let’s assume you can get a block of four of those $30 tickets.
Tickets $120
Ticket service charges, tax etc. $40
Parking $20
You’re already approaching $200. Then add in the exorbitant costs of drinks, snacks, memorabilia, etc. and you’re looking at another $150 easy for four people. The prices you pay to go to a Wings game have been out of control for years.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:19 AM MST up reply actions
The prices you pay to go see a team anywhere have been exorbitant for years and years. The Coyotes are, without a doubt, one of the best deals in all of professional sports. But it’s what is necessary right now to get fans to discover the game and adopt the team (like JJ from Kansas discusses below).
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
You act like that's only true in Detroit.
I have to drive an hour and a half to the Sabres game. I have to spend money on gas, $10-12 on tolls. $10-25 on parking. Beer, food. More beer. And more beer.
The difference is the Sabres didn’t have to advertise $30 tickets. I wasn’t able to get more than one ticket because they were gone immediately. It took me 15 minutes to log into the system because of demand.
Prices are high wherever you go. And if you’re really worried about the exorbitant costs you don’t need to buy drinks and snacks and memorabilia.
by twoeightnine on Apr 13, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
Toronto tickets are more expensive than that in the regular season and the team sucks. Stop making excuses.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Have the Leafs or Sabres won 4 Stanley Cups in the last 15 years with multiple Presidents trophies, Division and Conference championships?
That’s not a dig against those teams. It’s a statement about fan complacency. Wings fans are used to the team winning winning winning. For the past few seasons it has taken until the Conference Finals until the tickets are hard to come by. I lived in Detroit for the 1997 and 1998 Cups. It was one of the most amazing times of my life. The energy just wasn’t the same in 2002 or 2008.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
So by your own admission Red Wings fans don’t show up unless the team is winning the Cup. Seems pathetic to me. I cheer for my team through the good and the bad.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
It’s more like the fans expect the team to make it deep into the playoffs, and they’d rather spend their money on Conference Finals tickets than Round 1. especially since many people can’t afford to do both. a lot of people in that area are hurting badly financially and if they’re lucky enough to be able to scrape up the money to go to a playoff game, they’re picky about which one to go to.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
That’s a demand problem. You see in real hockey markets people would prefer to go to the Cup Finals over round one as well but round one tickets are easier to get (and thus cheaper) and because those markets have enough demand they sell out every game.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
excuses?
and you want to lecture us? Priceless!
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 13, 2010 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
Different Style of Bandwagon.
We know we have those people jumping on, and we need them quite frankly. The bandwagoners for Detroit that we see here are the “We’re not Bandwagoners, we’ve always been fans” Who Couldn’t tell you about Dino or Paul Coffey at all.
Support Your Local Coyotes Blog - Five For Howling
JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
Dino invented the style, Holmstrom perfected it. Ciccarelli was a little ball of fire. Coffey was amazing to watch him skate. I actually bumped into him outside Joe Louis Arena (when I was working as an usher). I showed up early and was on my way in, and he was just walking by like any other person heading in to work. Very cool.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
Part of the reason
I can’t decide if this post is a flame or a serious question.
Go back and watch the playoff series in 1997 vs the Ducks (they were replying game 3 on FS-A last night). The arena was sold out and white’d out (yes not a word I know). These fans have always been here but were sick of the b*llshit from Moyes and the piss poor performance of the team.
When we refer to bandwagoners for the wings, we mean the people who support them for the same reason as those who support Manchester United or the Yankees – they are the team who is known for being a top team. Its less so in Hockey as there is more between team parity I will agree, but the wings have been a powerhouse for years – so they have a large number of fans who only like them when they win.
Supporting my teams from 6000 miles away!
HOWL! LETS GO COYOTES!!
Ignore it, Timmy.
Trolling on sbnation is almost tradition, every playoff yea,. hence Travis’ post about Wings fans coming in here with the same old song and dance.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 8:57 AM MST up reply actions
You need to play offense here, not defense. Detroit can’t sell out playoff games at home. They should be ridiculed for that. Detroit’s a “real hockey market” right? Detroit fans will remind you ad nauseum that your team doesn’t sell out.
Seems to me that if Detroit were a real hockey market (they have “Hockeytown” stapled to their building) selling out their tiny arena wouldn’t be a problem.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Agreed 100%
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not sure what the situation is in Phoenix with the location of the arena, but consider this. To go to a Wings game you have to drive an hour, pay $15-20 for parking, walk a block or two to the arena, pay exorbitant prices for food and drinks, etc. then wait an hour to be able to get out of the parking garage and drive an hour home. The whole situation needs modernization. Couple that with the economic situation in Detroit, and people simply won’t (or can’t) pay $500 to take their kids to a hockey game. And that’s just regular season.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:13 AM MST up reply actions
Hmmm yes it does need Modernization
Won’t happen with the economy at the moment tho.
As a reference I’m coming up from Tucson. Last time it took me about two hours to get to the arena doors (I’m guestimating as we went skating first), had a nice meal, got inside and to our seats in time to watch some highlights, payed $6 a drink for a 32oz, $4 for some cotton candy, and were home by midnight after an 8 round shootout.
Supporting my teams from 6000 miles away!
HOWL! LETS GO COYOTES!!
Why would you have to drive an hour? The Joe is right downtown in Detro- oh right.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
by Chemmy on Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I just pulled four tickets off Ticketmaster for $40 a pop in the Joe. $175 with service charge for a family of four.
Quit it with the $500 nonsense.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Add up gas, parking, food, drinks, etc.
Then compare it to being able to take your kids to a baseball game in a brand new outdoor stadium on a beautiful afternoon, for a fraction of the cost.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
If you’re spending $325 on gas parking food and drinks I don’t know what to tell you, but sure let’s do it.
You live an hour away, at 60mph that’s 60 miles, or 120 round trip. If your car gets 20mpg that’s six gallons of gas at around $3.50 = $21.
Parking when I was in Detroit was $10, I’ll double that because you’re unreasonable = $20.
Food and drinks for four, we’ll say eight hot dogs at $5 a piece, two sodas at $6 each and two beers at $10 each = $72.
Tickets, gas, parking, food = $288 in the playoffs. If you’re so worried about money stop at McDonald’s on the way and save $50.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
by Chemmy on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Two beers at a playoff game?!
Prude.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 13, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
He Pre-games. And Post-Games. And Post-Post-Games
Support Your Local Coyotes Blog - Five For Howling
JaredFromLondon: ...Odin, he's cool.
by Travis Hair on Apr 13, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
pwned?
Sorry. Always wanted to say that.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Apr 13, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
I’ll double that because you’re unreasonable
That’s got to go in the SBNation Hall of Fame.
Too close for missiles, I'm switching to dead raccoons.
by puckurgently on Apr 13, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
that wins everything
"He'll be fine, he grew up by a nuclear power plant"- Alexander Mogilny
Twitter: Tales of Low to Moderate Interest
Rule 1: Never get into a fight with Chemmy
"He'll be fine, he grew up by a nuclear power plant"- Alexander Mogilny
Twitter: Tales of Low to Moderate Interest
If you’re spending $325 on gas parking food and drinks I don’t know what to tell you, but sure let’s do it.
You live an hour away, at 60mph that’s 60 miles, or 120 round trip. If your car gets 20mpg that’s six gallons of gas at around $3.50 = $21.
Parking when I was in Detroit was $10, I’ll double that because you’re unreasonable = $20.
Food and drinks for four, we’ll say eight hot dogs at $5 a piece, two sodas at $6 each and two beers at $10 each = $72.
Tickets, gas, parking, food = $288 in the playoffs. If you’re so worried about money stop at McDonald’s on the way and save $50.
Getting your ass flamed away by Chemmy? Priceless.
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
That just means that there aren’t that many hockey fans in Detroit and you should be careful because you’ll shatter your glass house.
Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.
Detroit also has three other sports teams that fans are passionate about. So it’s not just about “do I go to a Wings game or not” it’s about “do I go to a Wings game, a Lions game, a Pistons game, or a Tigers game?”
The Tigers are hugely popular in Detroit, and this time of year as the season is just starting up, there are a lot of people who choose that over the Wings simply because they can no longer afford to do both. Cheap ticket to a ball game at a brand new stadium in a nice entertainment area VS expensive ticket to a hockey game at an old stadium with horrible parking and nothing else around it to do before or after the game?
The owners should see the writing on the wall here, and not just blame it on the economy. They need to make it more attractive for casual fans to go to a Wings game.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
There is a bit of that here
Do I go to a Suns game (downtown), a D-backs game (downtown) a Cards game (across the road) or to the Coyotes?
Supporting my teams from 6000 miles away!
HOWL! LETS GO COYOTES!!
One point I will contend. Detroit is “Hockeytown” (self-proclaimed) and of all the teams there, The Wings have the most historical success, although the Pistons haven’t been too bad either. But, really, my understanding from friends from Michigan is that it is a hockey town, first and foremost.
As for an inconvenient, hard to get to arena, we have the same deal (apparently) in Phoenix. I’m not saying it’s reasonable to ask fans to spend $500 to bring their family…it’s not…at all. I’m just saying that it’s a bit hypocritical for Wings fans to blast Coyotes fans who have no historical success or real history with the team at all for attendance woes when they can’t sell out their own arena. It’s not like we are giving the tickets away in Phoenix (although comparatively, yes…yes, we are).
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions
I personally would never bash the Coyotes or their fans for low attendance. Every team has that problem at times. The Wings had that problem until they started winning, and now that problem is coming back. I think part of it is complacency. Even the fans who ARE at the games in Detroit aren’t as energetic as they used to be. Used to winning, I guess. It comes to be expected.
Phoenix fans, I hope you really take the time to enjoy this, and have some years of success. It’s an amazing feeling and a great time to be a fan. I went through it in Detroit in the mid to late 90s and the buzz around the city, the aura in the arena, everyone talking about it everywhere you went, it was awesome.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure because you mentioned the Lions it means you lose.
On the Forecheck/Twitter/CLS
"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 13, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Tigers Suck
Lions Suck
Pistons Suck
Red Wings Don’t Suck
Where is the decision?
Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.
"Bandwagon" is Such an Abused Term
Can we separate the terms “bandwagon” and “fair-weather”? It seems they’re used interchangeably, but they’re two different things and only one of those types of fans deserves ire.
Bandwagon fans jump on when the jumping’s good. Who can blame them? I wasn’t lucky enough to be born into a hockey-loving family, I had to “discover” the sport. Having no regional ties (fuck St. Louis), I had no innate reason to root for anybody. Thorne and Clement helped sell me on the Wings, the beauty and grace of the Russian Five solidified that and Claude Lemieux’s hit on Draper confirmed it. Am I less of a fan 15 years later because my dad never took me to a hockey game? No, I just learned later.
Fairweather fans can be people who were born into it or can be former bandwagoners. People who ONLY care about their team when the team is good deserve the ire of hockey fans everywhere.
Unfortunately, I’ve only been a fan for 15 years and Detroit’s been good in all of them, so I guess you won’t know if I’m a bandwagoner or a fairweather until they finally have a horrible year. Be sure to check back in with me in 2025 for that ;)
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 13, 2010 9:20 AM MST reply actions
I think that’s a fair enough distinction. And no, depending on when you “discover” a sport and what teams spark your interest, there could be a bandwagon element that is inadvertent. I’m more referring to the drunk idiot that sits next to me at the regular season Red Wings game with his brand new Original 6 sweatshirt and Winged Wheel® hat screaming in my face for the entire 2.5 hours, but can’t tell me who half of the Red Wings players are on the current team…let alone anything of their history. Those are the fans that drive me crazy. It doesn’t really matter to me if they are fairweather or bandwagon fans…I just don’t want to deal with them.
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the difference between earning derision and not earning derision is sticking with a team. Everyone jumps on board at some point.
It’s not the jumping on the bandwagon it’s the inevitable jumping off.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
I jumped off the Rangers (my dad’s favorite team and the team I grew up watching before moving to Philly in 1998) when Sather traded Leetch in the least classy way possible. Then he brought in all sorts of guys I hated and hired Tortarella to coach them. Maybe if Sather and Torts were gone, I could care about them again…but I really did grow to love that Orange and Black…
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
Weird, I know somebody else who lives in Phoenix but is a big Philly fan.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
I lived there for 7 years and it was so easy to get to the games that they easily surpassed any of the NY teams I grew up cheering for. In my 7 years in Philadelphia, I probably went to over 200 live sporting events. In the 18 years I grew up in NY, I probably went to 20. It’s amazing what a ballpark or stadium experience can do to change your opinion of a team or make you start cheering for a team…
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah. I’m a Leafs fan in the US. I went to college and cheered for the Bruins because they were in town. Now that I’m not in Boston I don’t care about the Bruins at all, but having a second team if you don’t live where your primary team does seems ok.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Yeah, and it makes it super easy to convince my wife that we really do need Center Ice so we can watch those 20 Coyotes games that are not broadcast locally….and the 82 Flyers games :)
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
How many young players are on this team (other than Jimmy Howard). I’ll admit that they are a pretty well run team, but they really struggled this year with all the injuries and none of these guys are getting younger…
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
I figured…I’m just remembering feeling similarly about the Flyers many years back and then experiencing the debacle a few years back…ouch.
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
Hard core Wings fans don’t just pay attention to the Wings. They pay attention to the farm teams, too. Aside from the new, young players on the team like Howard, Helm, Eaves, Ericsson, Miller, and Filpulla, many of us are paying attention to players in Grand Rapids like Abdelkader, Ritola, Kindl, and Janek.
Heck, we got to see a lot of the up-and-coming future Red Wings this season, with all the injuries.
And by the way, the Wings team age had nothing to do with the injuries. Those who got injured are not the older players. Some were among the youngest on the team, and the bulk are in the prime of their careers. They weren’t wear-and-tear injuries, they were of the acute variety.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
fair enough. I honestly just know that they had a lot of injuries…not who was injured or the types of injuries. It’ll be interesting to see how long they can keep their success going.
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
the irony that we’ve (Wings fans) been talking about all season is that some of their key players got a lot of rest due to the injuries. as a team they were able to hang on and still make the playoffs, and will actually be more rested than usual going into the playoffs thanks to the contributions of the younger players who filled in all those games.
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not worried about the team falling apart until Ken Holland leaves.
Of course, he said he’s retiring when Lidstrom does and I don’t think the perfect human is going to be around until 2015, let alone 2025. Still, if Stevie Y can hold off on any job offers he gets until then (screw you, Tampa, he’s ours), I’m confident that our next GM will have the acumen to keep reloading our roster to keep us competitive for another 19 years. There is something about Detroit that makes skilled guys take less and character guys give more.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not sure why the Wings “flameouts” against Edmonton and Anaheim are even mentioned, since they’ve managed to win 2 cups since then. This year, though, the team is a lot thinner than before, and if the Coyotes can play their game, they can win. I sure hope they do.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:20 PM MST reply actions
Well, they’ve won 1 cup since then, as a matter of fact, and as with any team that thinks of themselves as being perennial Stanley Cup contenders who consider the earlier rounds beneath them, it’s a fear to get beat in those early rounds. And they’ve been bit by it more than once in recent memory. That’s why I brought it up.
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
they’ve also shown an ability to bounce back. But I think this year, the team just isn’t built well enough for playoff success, and a team like the Coyotes have a pretty good chance of winning because of their own talent, not because of a Wings “flameout”. Saying the Ducks lost because of a “flameout” isn’t giving the Ducks enough credit, I feel. Edmonton… you’ve got a point.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed on all points. And I’m the last person that is going to sell the Coyotes short on their own talent (I get blamed for this all the time for some reason); I’m a STH and write for a Coyotes blog, for god’s sake – I’ve got my sand-tinted glasses on all the time.
And while both those Ducks and Oilers teams were pretty decent (yes, even Edmonton), those Detroit teams (on paper) should’ve steamrolled them because of their experience, veteran leadership, etc. etc. All the same BS that people will use to say that the Coyotes can’t win in this series. “Flameout” might not be the best term for it, but I would bet that this is the term that the Wings fans would use themselves if they lost this series…as well they might…
Support Coyotes Hockey - Five For Howling
(Oh, and go Philly teams as well!)
by Jordan Ellel on Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
Pacific Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
San Jose
|
51 | 29 | 16 | 6 | 64 |
|
Los Angeles
|
55 | 26 | 19 | 10 | 62 |
|
Phoenix
|
55 | 26 | 21 | 8 | 60 |
|
Dallas
|
53 | 28 | 23 | 2 | 58 |
|
Anaheim
|
53 | 21 | 24 | 8 | 50 |
(updated 2.10.2012 at 7:27 AM MST)
Coyotes Schedule
Next 5 Games
|
Chicago
|
Sat 02/11 | 6:30 PM MST |
|
@
Vancouver
|
Mon 02/13 | 8:00 PM MST |
|
@
Los Angeles
|
Thu 02/16 | 8:30 PM MST |
|
Dallas
|
Sat 02/18 | 6:00 PM MST |
|
Los Angeles
|
Tue 02/21 | 7:00 PM MST |
Last 5 Games
|
Calgary
|
Thu 02/09 | OT - W 2 - 1 |
|
@
Dallas
|
Tue 02/07 | W 4 - 1 |
|
Detroit
|
Mon 02/06 | W 3 - 1 |
|
San Jose
|
Sat 02/04 | W 5 - 3 |
|
Anaheim
|
Tue 01/31 | L 1 - 4 |
In Association With
Latest Puck Daddy - NHL from Yahoo! Sports
- Friday’s Three Stars: Blackhawks lose seventh straight; Wings win nineteenth straight at home
- Puck Previews: Blackhawks reeling; Sabres streaking; Holmstrom’s 1000th game
- Will Teemu Selanne remain with the Anaheim Ducks through the trade deadline?
- Nikolai Zherdev takes stick to crotch, elbow drop in KHL game (Video)
- Puck Headlines: Accused coach Pravilov dead; more Tim Thomas heat; Junior team goes nuts post-shootout
Latest stories and headlines from NHL.com
- Miller with a goal and two assists to lead the Warriors over the Hitmen 4-2
- NHL Capsules: Red Wings win 19th straight at home with 2-1 shootout victory
- Red Wings beat Ducks 2-1 in shootout for 19th straight home win
- Nathan Gerbe caps Buffalo Sabres' comeback in 3-2 shootout win over Dallas Stars
- QMJHL Roundup: A look at Friday's games
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
