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DISH Network says Fox Networks to Blame For Service Drop

[Note by Travis Hair, 10/12/10 5:10 PM MDT ] Per FSN, they noted that Directv is no longer owned by Fox. That section has been removed from the story below.

As you may have seen here on Five for Howling a couple weeks ago, DISH customers are currently not recieving Fox Sports net channels along with other Fox distributed networks as the two sides fight over contracts fees etc. I wrote about this after being contacted by Fox Sports Arizona as it will certainly impact Coyotes fans if they can't see any of the local games which start here on Saturday against the Red Wings. Well earlier today with FSN doing a lot of the talking so far, DISH Network sent along this Press release:

"Please know that DISH Network continues to negotiate with FOX. FOX is trying to scare viewers by threatening to take away the World Series and other local FOX TV programming, a tactic they've been using in ads. DISH Network has yet to receive a proposal from FOX that would equal anything but an overly excessive rate increase. The two sides are continuing to negotiate and we are hopeful we can reach a fair deal.

On Oct. 1, FOX Networks blocked its regional sports channels from DISH Network satellite TV customers and is demanding an outrageous rate increase in order to restore the programming, depriving millions of viewers their regional sports.

Last week, public interest groups, including the American Television Alliance, Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance and the Sports Fans Coalition, have publicly voiced their support for DISH Network and are imploring FOX to consider what is best for consumers. The groups strongly urge FOX to discontinue its practice of blocking access to programming while negotiations continue after contracts expire."

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So basically here's what this all means or looks like to me; Whatever contract Fox and DISH had for Eleventy Billion Dollars, or whatever it is since they don't really tell us, expired at the end of September. Fox, wanting a lot more money says, give us what we're looking for or we walk. They're still negotiating a deal and DISH doesn't want to lose some pretty important channels so they say "Hey how about we keep things going like they are until we can get something new worked out?" Fox basically has the power to cut the feed to DISH and make their service significatly weaker without it so they take their ball and go home so to speak. 

All this does is lead to millions of consumers getting screwed no matter who's at fault. We know this deal is for a ton of cash and both sides want said cash. In the meantime though Hundreds of thousands of Sports fans in the Phoenix area and Millions across the country will miss NHL games locally as well as College football and the beginning of the NBA season. Really it doesn't matter who's at fault. Just find a way to work this out without charging people 200 bucks a month for cable please. 

FSN Representative Brett Hansen had the following to say in response to the story:

This was not a surprise for Dish. FOX had been trying to negotiate a fair deal with them for six months before the Oct. 1 deadline. Asking for an extension at this point would be like moving the finish line. They let the agreement expire and in effect, dropped the service.

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Who's to blame here really?
DISH
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Fox
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Who cares?! Just give me my FSN Arizona and Coyotes hockey back.
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I'm voting Fox

I understand where Fox is coming from. By cutting services, DISH will have to face customers leaving for DirectTV, etc…, so Fox is hoping DISH will pay the huge price to prevent its customers leaving. So no, Fox can’t keep services because it doesn’t give them that leverage over DISH. While for us, the “rich gets richer” back and forth seems stupid, that’s how things are done. DISH’s press release, believe it or not, is a great shot back. By giving Fox bad publicity, it pulls the advantage back to the middle, but that implies DISH isn’t backing down. The bad thing is, for us, we want someone to cave in so we can get our damn channels back.

I’m hoping for an agreement soon also.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 12, 2010 3:29 PM MST reply actions  

Exactly. Whatever the cost the consumer will likely be the one paying for it anyways. Who knows at this point I just know the people want their MTv FSN.

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by Travis Hair on Oct 12, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Rupert Murdock Sucks

Dish customers may leave for DirecTV, that is until DTV and FOX start disputing carrier fees. The same is about to happen to Cabelvision customers too, if an agreement is not worked out by Friday 10/15.

“In a difficult economy, it is unfair and wrong for News Corp. to demand huge fee increases from Cablevision customers for Fox’s channel 5 and My9 and then threaten to pull the plug if they don’t get what they want,” said Cablevision Executive Vice President Charles Schueler in a prepared statement. “Cablevision already pays News Corp. $70 million every year for its channels, and now News Corp. wants more than $150 million a year for the exact same programming.”

by demsd on Oct 13, 2010 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Dish vs Fox

Anyone think it’s suspicious that Rupert Murdoch owns Directv and Fox ,PLUS the commercials and websites say sign up with Directv to get your favorite channels back ?

by John Porterfield on Oct 12, 2010 7:23 PM MST reply actions  

He no longer owns directv according to fox.

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by Travis Hair on Oct 12, 2010 8:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually the commercials and ads also mention whomever the local cable provider is too in the area.

Rupert doesn’t own them anymore. I believe John Malone and Liberty Media bought out the NewsCorp shares and then spun off DirectTv. That being said the companies still share a close relationship.

Not like this is the first of these kind of disputes. Time Warner seems to have them quarterly with programmers and the NFL network issues are well chronicled. This is going to be an issue more and more with companies like Dtv and Comcast who are producing their own programming and have their own channels. In other words, get used to it.

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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 8:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Not Any More

Rupert Murdock had a 38% stake in DirecTV. News Corp. agreed to exchange a 38% stake in DirecTV, $550 million in cash and three regional sports networks for Liberty Media’s 19% voting interest in News Corp. on on Dec. 22, 2007.

by demsd on Oct 13, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

This sucks, I went thru this last year with Versus and Directv, I still saw some games but anytime you are doing your part (paying your cable bill) and can’t watch a game that is on because rich people are fighting over money, it just really blows.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 12, 2010 8:51 PM MST reply actions  

Dish customers in St. Louis had this problem last year...

… as Fox Midwest tried to raise its rates for Blues games, and Dish balked. Most FSMW programming aired, but Blues games ended up being blacked out.

Hopefully things get fixed for everyone, and soon.

by BleedBlue42 on Oct 13, 2010 9:03 AM MST reply actions  

Dish vs. Fox

I blame Dish. Dish expects us to pay what they ask for their service. The same applies to Fox. Fox says they are not charging more than they charge any other cable service. Dish should pay Fox and give the fans the programming they want.

by sickofdish on Oct 13, 2010 3:28 PM MST reply actions  

Hm

If Fox is claiming to charge the same, then yes, maybe Dish’s publicity stunt is to purposely draw the fans’ sympathy vote. Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that we still get no service. How many of us do you estimate use DISH over other networks?

by KholdStare88 on Oct 14, 2010 8:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

Almost 1000 votes? What did you do Travis? 0.o

by KholdStare88 on Oct 14, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Nothing. I’ve gotten a ton of traffic from people wanting to know what’s up and no other outlets reporting it. I win!

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by Travis Hair on Oct 14, 2010 10:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Some off-topic news

Well I didn’t want to make a fanshot about this so I guess this place would be most appropriate. Go to the link below:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl

Scroll down, and take a look at UPCOMING YAHOO! SPORTS BROADCASTS. It seems that Yahoo! Sports will stream our next two games, which is kind of amazing, since before the postseason of last year, they disregarded most of our games. At least we’re getting some recognition now. But it also occurs to me that this news could apply for those with DISH problems, since at least there are legal streams of our next two games. Enjoy.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 15, 2010 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

FYI

Check out the “Get What I paid For” site

by Harry Ballsonya on Oct 17, 2010 5:01 PM MST reply actions  

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